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Oh, and to Wingedangel, and others that will come back on here to forcefully show me the error of my ways, may I ask that you all not be so belligerent? All the points made simply attempt to get me from being the one person in the room with a different line of thinking. That doesn't require the type of stance adopted against me. It's a free country, and I think all of us appreciate our right to free thought.
I have not backed the said company AS IT IS, but have repeatedly said, that I back their possibility of change and improvement. A person doesn't change and improve after being shot dead. And that's my point. If given a little chance, change and improvement CAN happen.
It just seems a shame that the bloodlust on here is so powerful. Do remember, I do not, and cannot support a company that will actively endanger people. Never. I haven't spoken to CaramelCycles since I visited, but if they haven't stopped selling built up bikes, of the type that they are now regretting.....then I cannot support any single thing that they do.
By the way, does anybody know if they actually have sold even one built up bike AFTER Nhatt got that badly put together example into her shop? I'd be surprised if they have. And if they are still selling such bikes, I'd avoid them like the plague, and not write one word in support of them, or in wishing them a new chance. That's a promise.
But if they have ALREADY stopped selling such bikes, then what exactly is the problem? All changes require ay least a little time. Maybe the arguments are moot, if the bike side of that company has ceased? I don't know this, but it seems that no-one has even given this a thought. It's just all attack, attack, attack. Which of course, is strange to me.