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  • So how about tubes AND sealant? As in sealant filled tubes, with some sealant in the tyre casing too...possible?

    I run sealant in my tubes. I won't say that I haven't had a pu*****e as I have a race (type thing) on the 12th and I need all the luck I can get.

  • having a tube and sealant kills all the benefits of tubeless (apart from the self sealing)
    losing a kilo of rotating weight, running lower pressures and having a tyre carcass that deforms better giving you more grip and less rolling resistance at the same time is the epic win of tubeless.

  • having a tube and sealant kills all the benefits of tubeless (apart from the self sealing)
    losing a kilo of rotating weight, running lower pressures and having a tyre carcass that deforms better giving you more grip and less rolling resistance at the same time is the epic win of tubeless.

    Having put tubes back into my tyres, you can feel the difference simply by pinching them (at the same PSI). Soon as I find the time to sort my tubless set-up. I wont be able to go back to tubes.

    Would be like taking the Veloflex's off my fixed and putting some clunky conti commuters on.

  • I was meaning purely for DH bikes personally. I agree there is no point having both for anything else.

  • [QUOTE=MrSmyth;1622024 losing a kilo of body weight, running lower pressures and having a carcass that performs better gives you more grip and less rolling resistance at the same time, its the epic win of fitness.[/QUOTE]
    ftfy

  • How often do you get punctures anyway?

    I'm running some cheap WTB ExiWolf 2.3" on my KM, and use some cheap 26" tubes in them (works fine, don't get expensive 29'er tubes, no sense in it!), and I only had like one flat in ~750km and that was a pitchflat because I was to lazy to pump them... I guess I was down below 2 bars of pressure.

    Those tires are recommendable for allround single-track TRAINING btw, cheap/heavy but they work.. and they grip pretty well too both dry and in mud :)

  • the thing with the most efficient suspension will be better all round.
    masses of travel is used for freeride bikes and doing big gaps/drops.
    you way of thinking hasn't made it onto the DH circuit yet.

    ok...take deepest suspension as a typo...what I meant to say was...best...aha...copout...;D. though, like I said on the previous page the closer the remit gets to a motocrosser the better 'they' will be, the whole front big wheel thing has to be step in the right direction as each wheel performs better for the two different tasks required? just thinking anyway.
    I don't know much about the differences though surely you mean the oposite? that the downhill bike is longer with deeper suspension as it is only going downhill fast withtout the intricacies of freeride? freeride being more technical?
    if thats what you meant ignore me...! ;D

  • tale deepest suspension as a typo

    ;)

  • ok...take deepest suspension as a typo...what I meant to say was...best...aha...copout...;D. though, like I said on the previous page the closer the remit gets to a motocrosser the better 'they' will be, the whole front big wheel thing has to be step in the right direction as each wheel performs better for the two different tasks required? just thinking anyway.
    I don't know much about the differences though surely you mean the oposite? that the downhill bike is longer with deeper suspension as it is only going downhill fast withtout the intricacies of freeride? freeride being more technical?
    if thats what you meant ignore me...! ;D

    Freeride bikes do tend to have longer travel than pro elite DH race bikes as a DH race is over far more quickly, so some loss of comfort is preferable if it means a gain in speed and traction, as well as a loss in weight.
    The difference between a DH race bike and a crosser is that you don't have an engine to help carry the extra weight and fight against the wallowing travel.

  • Although freeride has since morphed into 'All mountain' these days anyway and changed everything again.
    The days of the big huck style freeride bikes are gone now really.

    Sighhh...Everything was much simpler in the 8O's. :]

  • Although freeride has since morphed into 'All mountain' these days anyway and changed everything again.
    The days of the big huck style freeride bikes are gone now really.

    Sighhh...Everything was much simpler in the 8O's. :]

    Apart from the hair.

  • Belongs in the Epic Win thread:

  • Why is it proving so fucking difficult to buy some rims? Seriously.

  • Dont worry, my frame has still not arrived. Had been told it would take a week, 2 and half later still not here though BC had warned me the distributor was a nightmare to deal with.

  • Frustrating what? Wonder if Soma and Halo share a UK distributor.

    "At least" the end of the week according to the guys I'm getting the rims from and Putney Cycles don't want to order me any spokes until they confirm my (actually the manafacturer's) measurements. Grrr.

  • Why is it proving so fucking difficult to buy some rims? Seriously.

    I had to buy mine from 2 separate shops. If you haven't already give Rutland Cycles a go, they are generally quite well stocked and have good service.

  • Frustrating what? Wonder if Soma and Halo share a UK distributor.

    "At least" the end of the week according to the guys I'm getting the rims from and Putney Cycles don't want to order me any spokes until they confirm my (actually the manafacturer's) measurements. Grrr.

    what rims?

  • Halo Freedom Discs.

    There seems to be bugger-all options in that price bracket really. There's the WTB Dual Duty but they only seem to do it in 32H. Quite a big price jump from the Halos up to things like the NoTubes from what I can tell.

  • they must be able to get the info off the web, no?

  • Yes. That's what I did but they want to measure them themselves 'cause they have to order in boxes of 100 and I only need 20 of each length.

  • Also, Winstanley Bikes website says they've got the rims in stock but it seems this may not mean a great deal. Anybody got more recent experience with them? Improved?

  • I pre-ordered my Scissort from them at the start of the year, it was delayed a few times due to Charge changing things around but they kept me informed. My experience with them was a good, if this is universal now I couldn't say.

  • Also, Winstanley Bikes website says they've got the rims in stock but it seems this may not mean a great deal. Anybody got more recent experience with them? Improved?

    Just bought some Halo rims from them in fact. Listed as in stock, but then had to wait for them to be ordered in. Typical Winstanley to be honest.

  • What tubeless rims are people using?

  • What tubeless rims are people using?

    stans.

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