• i don't think that drunk driving and brakeless riding are on a par. and if making this comparison is going to be the agenda of the article that is potentially going to be published then i hope it will contain facts and figures to back it up.

    No, read my post, my point was that it is akin to the argument that drivers make. In that the so-called experienced and intelligent brakeless riders say "well,*** I*** can handle a bike fine with no brakes, therefore it should not be illegal", totally discounting the fact that the practice itself is inherently dangerous, not everyone else is going to be as so 'with it' as they are.

    FWIW (and sidetracking) I dont think drunk driving and brakeless riding (or even drunk riding, or drunk brakeless riding) are on a par with drink driving. Being drunk in charge of a large heavy piece of motorised metal is insane.
    But I do think that people who ride brakeless are equally as stupid, irresponsible, dismissive, and dishonest to the truth, as motorists who claim that having "just a pint or two" before getting behind the wheel is perfectly reasonable. Its the same bullshit logic. I'm a bit slower to react, therefore I drive slower and more careful. I'm a bit slower to brake, therefore I cycle slower and more careful.

    I even think despite the comments on here, deep down, all brakeless riders know full well its less safe, both to themselves and others, but wont bring themselves to admit it.

    If the cops do ban it, I'd love to see them do tests on leg vs. standard braking with a large number of people (so its "statistically significant" or whatever, to satisfy the whingers that think that there needs to be thousands of people riding around unable to stop to demonstrate conclusively that its dangerous) on a closed track, with different speeds, to see the real stopping power of people's legs. Cycle computers to measure speed. A whistle blown to indicate an emergency stop. I think we all know which group would win.

    Argh... I'm getting sucked back in... must... escape...

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