RLJ (Red Light Jumping). (The definitive bikeradar thread)

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Just my point really - the law only dictates what is permissible and what is not. Right and wrong are independent of this. In your scenario, anyone running over the sweet old lady is a cunt, regardless of the colour of the lights or the vehicle they were in. unless she is a fucking benefit fraudster.

Interesting. You appear to believe in a moral standard that exisits for all time. A very Christian viewpoint but one which is not supported evidentially, even if one looks at Christian history. Morals are subjective. Legislation objective. In cases such as racism, legislation has helped to change popular morality.

The point I was trying to make was that morals and morality are completely independent from legislation, even though they usually tend to agree. Therefore, what is allowed by legislation is not necessarily correct morally, which I feel was what kerley was arguing for.