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Modern bikes get their stiffness by mainly being made of aluminium? What is this, the nineties?
Incidentally in the torygraph yesterday there was an article about how men having a midlife crisis are shunning the traditional sports car and buying top-end road bikes. Obviously they had a nice picture of someone on a Timetrial bike with TT helmet etc (just like in the Tour de France!!!!), adding up how much you could spend. Then showed an alu frame (admittedly a nice one) with carbon forks, saying that the frame material kept the weight right down. Fuck me bikes are getting a bit spaceage these days aren't they!