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This would be why I own so many bikes then...
Just picked up a new geared road bike (Kona Zing Deluxe), rode it to RCYB on Saturday and Pete wasnt there to see me actually ride something I own...
Anyway, on the sizing thing Nige - I vary between a 52 and a 56 for a road bike depending on geometry at 5'10". IMHO the only way to find out is to ride one, or to match sizing with a known frame of similar geometry.