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  • legestation in country's is all well and good, were not in them country's so there nothing we can do about it, you can scream and shout as much as you like, won't change a thing

    Nonsense - governments can impose trade sanctions/bans on imports and exports to other states, it happens all the time with countries involved in gross human rights violations or those breaching international agreements, e.g. Iran and the IAEA. People getting shit money for making shoes obviously isnt in the same league as executions, but states are not powerless to act if they so choose, and their decisions are influenced by the people that elect the governments. Boycotts, for their limited impact, do also cause companies headaches - why would they bother to counter any arguments if it didnt hurt their image or bottom line?

    if everything is ethical, where is the appeal for the people who love to feel smug?

    there isn't any, end of the day nothing will change, to get average joe JD sports to think about ethics is gonna be a long long long long time coming,

    Dont be such a close-minded Daily Mail dickhead - buying ethical products isnt about "feeling smug", its about making a choice at the point of purchase that somewhere back up the production chain supports less animal or human suffering/exploitation.

    "end of the day nothing will change" - but you're wrong, things do change, often when people work together to overcome problems and oppression. Slavery was abolished, apartheid fell, Stalinism collapsed, Ireland got its independence from Britain (thought you'd enjoy that one ;-), and so on. People get negative and worn down all the time and accept their lot, but every so often they surprise themselves with the shit they can achieve. No reason why in the future people might stop buying sweatshop shoes - or enough people might do it to warrant a change in legislation. There'll always be people who only give a shit about themselves and getting their hands on the latest fashionable thing, regardless of what had to happen to manufacture it.

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