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  • Schmarmin. I think we should ban them, but unlike the wishy-washy radio silence experiment in the Tour, we should stand firm.

    I'm going to fucking throw somebody's in a field soon.

    +1
    stupid things on a larger group ride (they of course have place on other rides). everyone becomes a leader (too many chefs) then it all becomes a mess very quickly and no one knows who knows route...then they stop working and it has all gone to shit.

    ban them.

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