Epic fail

Definetely think its better than getting stunned before hand. And the ritual of manual human controlled slaughter, is definetely a respect that animals deserve.

I think bolt guns are terrible! But gassing, which they now do on turkeys is probably worth looking at more.

why is stunning bad? done correctly, the animal goes from conscious to unconscious in an instant, rather than feeling the blade go into their neck and waiting for the blood pressure to fall so they pass out. yes, it looks nasty, but a lot of the movement is the animal having a seizure when unconscious.

Crikey, just seen that. I would consider that rather bad. Animals can be more aware than you might think, those sheep would be terrified!

thus the get out clause that i put in.

Halal/Kosher rules are at the end of the day, mostly about animal care. There are rules about keeping/feeding the animals with natural grazing. And a method of slaughter which is thought to be the least painful or frightening for the animal.

did you watch the video(s)? in the case of kosher, it was ruled that a second cut that is commonly done to rip out the trachea is abuse. and i think at the end of the day halal/kosher rules are mostly about fear of punishment from some magical sky-wizard who is ready to dole out genocide and mass rape, but actually, really really loves you and gives a fuck about how you kill your little sheep (but never pigs!) after a nice day of ethnic cleansing.

[not a comment on palestine, referencing this in bible 1 Samuel 15:2-3 "Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." and this in qu'ran "Slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. 9:5"]

The stun-clamp things are clearly not that effective. It seems to often take more than one go to knock an animal out. Imagine getting repeatedly tasered in the head! A farmer once told me that sheep easily get heart attacks, so I imagine this could actually do that and cause loads of discomfort.

some electrical stunners are designed to cause heart attacks, as well as render the animal unconscious.