Road wheel sets

The other point with handbuilts vs bling low-spoke-count factory wheels is that although handbuilts may come in broadly the same weight or slightly heavier for the money, their rotational mass tends to be very good. E.g. they have light rims (far away from the hub, where it matters cos it's spining) compensated for by more spokes. Rather than less spokes, compensated for by a heavy rim.

A good point. It is easy to get the weights for standalone rims (Open Pro, DT etc, ) but finding the weight of say a rim on a Fulcrum wheel is almost impossible.
Is this because the makers don't want us to know...

A good point. It is easy to get the weights for standalone rims (Open Pro, DT etc, ) but finding the weight of say a rim on a Fulcrum wheel is almost impossible.
Is this because the makers don't want us to know...

LOL. Actually, not too hard to back out a likely weight based on known spoke weights and likely hub weight. E.g. fulcrum 7 20h/24h weighs 1930g , pair of hubs of that quality (e.g. equivalent to 105s) are going to be 500g-ish for the pair, spokes 6g each:

1930 - 500 - 6*44 = 1166g / 2 = 583g per rim

Whopper! Give me a 32h Excellight/DT 1.1/Open Pro any day :-)

OK correction, maybe my hub weight was off a little, say the hubs are 600g, that's still 530g per rim which is a lot more than any of the others mentioned.

Not to whinge or anything, but there is another thread with allot of good info on road wheels...

...I'll go and have a look, but is there any way to filter out all classifieds from the results?

If not is there any chance such a filter could be made?

Road Wheel Recomendations

The IRD's seemed to be a popular lighter option to open pros

£499 at Planet X (just sayin', every little helps)

yep.... they put that price out the week after i bought the groupset from shiny bikes!

This from the tubby bitch who admitted the only reason he dislikes Campagnolo is due to the cost when purchasing it in Australia.

You should know that's not the only reason.
Their hoods don't work. Stupid thumb lever ffs
They make shit the uses never-before-seen allen key sizes.
Their brakes are shit.
People who use Campag are into their bikes looking pretty. Fuck off.

Buy full groupset - s/be cheaper. Ultegra would be my choice - unless you racing for podiums, not sure DA is worth it.

Wheels: HED Ardennes get v. good write up - tub feel, for clincher ease.

But PX do rule.

I seem incapable of making my own decision with anything, so... Assuming my budget is around 200 pounds, what would one look at:

36h Miche Primatos laced to Open Pros (190 built by Parkers)
32h Miche Primatos laced to Open Pros/CXP33s (~170 built by me)
28h/24h Campag Ventos (new for ~150, used for 100)

I am a big guy, so more spokes sounds good to me, but is it worth the extra 100 quid for the new set of wheels with more spokes, or would it be better to grab a used set of Ventos and upgrade when I've got a bit more cash/need to?

Or is there anything else in that budget range that'd be better (Campag 11 speed compatible)?

I'd go for the Ventos. More spokes doth not maketh a better wheel.

Do you mean Vento Reactions? I've got a pair (bought when they were on sale at something like £115 at Parker). They're fine, heavy, but spin forever and were cheap. Having said that I am planning on selling them quite soon, just need to crack on with buying/lacing my record-open pros.

Yeah, Vento Reactions, not the 90s Ventos, or the first two re-issues Ventos (2006 and 2007-2008?). That is, if I'm understanding Campagnolo's cataloging correctly, reactions came out in 2009.

Anyway, did another search for Ventos and discovered that Shiny had them for even cheaper (120 with shipping). Not going to do much better than that, and they seem to get people's approval. Ordered a pair.

32h would be fine for you horatio, I used to ride on 28/28 when I was 16 stones for a good year before changing the wheelset.

Crap, I was hoping to talk you into these

Too few speeds. Sell them to one of those vintage road bike hipsters ;)

(I'd love them for my vintage road bike - the 8 speed chorus rear hub won't stay tight! grrrr - but I've just spunked my bike allowance for the rest of the year on this new bike)

^ I'm on 32H with Dura Ace road hubs, Open Pros and CX-Rays and don't get any brake pad rub climbing/sprinting etc. And I'm over 16 st :)

Too few speeds. Sell them to one of those vintage road bike hipsters ;)

(I'd love them for my vintage road bike - the 8 speed chorus rear hub won't stay tight! grrrr - but I've just spunked my bike allowance for the rest of the year on this new bike)

Can do special plice? Very tight, special plice?

I can afford free and a bottle of wine (you provide the wine).

Deal?

I'll let you know if I find any extra pennies hiding in my bank account, although I still have a few bits left to buy for the other bike.

You should know that's not the only reason.
Their hoods don't work. Stupid thumb lever ffs
They make shit the uses never-before-seen allen key sizes.
Their brakes are shit.
People who use Campag are into their bikes looking pretty. Fuck off.

I use campag on mine as I want the gears to work well and last-which they do