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@hippy
Cunt. I'll eat your babies for this. I shouldn't post after a hill climb.
Anyway, most people I know only try 3rd party stuff like what Token offers when they break something from their original groupset.
If I was going to build another bike I'd buy a P-X (sell the frame) with groupset or the whole groupset and use that. If there was really some aftermarket thing I wanted I'd source it but I'd probably wear out the stock parts first (and by the time this happens I'd be over my shiny red jockey wheel fetish or whatever).