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@TheBrick(Tommy)
My point was that they are really no worse than most other large towns and cities in this country.
In the south of the UK nice towns / cities I can think of, Central London, Oxford, Bath (ultra posh though), Bristol, the rest Portsmouth, Southampton, Reading, Swindon e,t,c are either post industrial southern towns where the economy has collapsed (e.g pompy / soton) or massive sprawling out of town business parks with shopping centers and massive car parks (Reading, Swindon, Guilford, Basingstoke). The UK is just shit at doing towns.