I've never 'got'

Yeah but oversized tubing looks shit as a rule.

how it looks is irrelevant if it's heavy and bends like a boxing day turd, that is unless you are a cretinous hipster obsessed with how other skinny jean wearers perceive you and your bike.

Fuck me this place is showing its age. I could yawn my face off at cold leftover bullshit like this.