• I don't mind frictions shifters, TBH I like building bikes, but the prospect of building something more epxensive and more complicated makes me feel like buying a complete bike. I probably wouldn't buy the right combintion of parts or be able to set up gears correctly, and I want to do big mileages on a reliable bike.
    The randonneur is surely a nice reliable tourer, it probably wont be too much money either. The only reason I was looking at newer bikes was for reliability and comfort (pussy, I know), the Kinesis is not too far away from me, ultegra groupset, farting above my arsehole? I dunno.

    Youre talking madness. You want to ride a ton of miles in comfort but every single bike you mentioned you might get is Aluminium!?!
    A nice classic tourer with 531st frame is going to be a thousand times more comfortable and reliable.
    Also if you like building up bikes then surely you wouldnt by incompatible components.

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