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@clintsmoker
well i reckon the socialist capitalist debate should be on another thread or in a pub or something so no more comments there. as for Lemond, well Phew, until oliver mentioned his abuse i'd never heard that, i don't follow lemond that closely but i read a lot of stuff about him and the way he treated his own family. I don't like the way he goes about his business or deals with his business and i compared him to armstrong in an unfavourable light. I'm not going to mock a guy for being abused as a child but that doesn't stop him being an eratic, rambling media whore.
now get me a fig roll..or anything but a rich tea