What bike?

Boardman's wonderful, but go to Condor though, you can able to spec exactly what you want.

i take it this is LBS, i'll look them up and see if it's in reach when i next go into london..

I got a Reynolds 653 58cm frameset coming my way soon, will probably be a shimano double nine speed when done. £400 is about the going rate with nice paint. Worth considering given the saving.

yes i'm also interested in used bikes, but all depends on the gem c-c seat tube of 560 & c-c top tube of 557 (with 10% tollerance) are the main elements, also the fact that i am swayed towards camp shifters / drivechain.