Pake frames?

IRO makes a frame called the Angus. It's a good bit better than all the bikes mentioned thus far (people are refering the IRO Mark V when they say "IRO"). Reynolds 631 tubing. 1" threaded headset. A nice frame! Look into it.

Also, just saw that IRO makes the Mark V in a "pro" version which is Reynolds 631 tubing. This would be a good choice if you wanted a 1 1/8 threadless headset.

There are also some differences between these two bikes regarding whether you want to run rear brakes.

both of these are nice bikes and you're getting a lot for the the money.

thanks for the tips jersey, much appreciated!

well I checked the IRO website and took a closer look at the Angus and Mark V Pro, I like them both a lot but I think I'd prefer the Mark V Pro (same price, same steel, Mark V Pro has a 1 1/8" threadless fork, no bottle mounts (I like it clean haha), and I somehow just like the look better, especially the front part with the straight forks, even though I'm not too keen on the white paintjob...)

thanks again... I will check and see where I can get one, maybe even here in Switzerland, who knows...