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@Yawn
Nes - Cool! just checked out your second route. It goes past by wife's house in Halifax. I know it like the back of my hand. If you go the other way from Ripponden to Halifax past a pub called the Fleece you get a killer hill to climb. Save that for a nice sunny day and have a pint at the top then turn right, over the moors to Buckstones and down the silky smooth road into Dopbcross and Delph.