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@philxthomas
not really posting this as a 'find' but dunno where else to put it...
anyone had any experience with these frames? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280501851816&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en
obviously they're not gonna be very good, heavy, ugly, but for a cheap beater sort of 'track' frame... not buying one, just curious