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  • Labour pushed Faith Schools as a great thing, but that was one of many bits of tinkering that they did to the education system, and was more influenced by the New Labour ideology that "other people do it better" (be that the private sector, the Church, whoever).

    We can rationalise this all we wish, but at the end of the day what is important is the actual result in the real word.

    We might arrive at the death of 10,000 factory workers due to some legislation under the Conservatives and we might arrive at the death of 10,000 factory workers due to some legislation under New Labour - and there will always be people who argue that this policy (let's suppose a hypothetical reduction in worker safety) came from a different, more benign, place with New Labour and it came from a more nefarious place when put forward by the Conservatives.

    New Labour may be a jolly village green kinda religious party (something I don't agree with, but will let that go for now), but the results are what matter, thousands of schools and millions of children handed over to the church, 100,000 of our children in madrassas alone, a Prime Minister who believed he was telepathically communicating with the creator of the universe, taking advice on such issue as embarking on a war in the Middle East.

    This argument of 'sure they did this, but it came from a different place' is wasted on me.

    Although I haven't seen any data, I would be willing to bet quite a lot of money on either of the following two statements: 1) the Conservative have more self-identified religious members 1a) either in the party as a whole or 1b) in parliament than Labour; 2) of their religious members, a greater proportion of them are Christians, of some denomination, than Labour.

    What point is being made here ?

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