I got some of it off Wikipedia: Black Wednesday, that source of infallible knowledge:
I'm not sure of how smart it is to quote an editable source just prior to an election... unless wikipedia have locked all of those pages I'd say it's best to only quote first sources and verifiable figures. If you can't do this then state that this is just your opinion, as quoting wikipedia does not give your arguments any gravitas... not that it matters because...
Wikipedia doesn't account for this bit:
In 2010 the recession caused by Labour's stripping away of city regulation, and being in complete thrall to the city is solved by a return to governmental control - printing money, nationalising banks, tax and spend.
And my point was, do you literally believe that? Do you really truly believe that were it not for a Labour government (or 2, or 3) the entire global recession and the knock-on effect would not have occurred and that Britain would not have had a recession anyway? This isn't "Do you think it would have been as bad?", it's taking what you're asserting (that Labour caused the recession, nothing else) and holding that up to the light.
I think you credit Britain in general with too powerful a position in the world if this is the case. Hence my response that you have lived through a different history than I as the one in which you live has Britain actually placed as being important on the world stage. Really, we're really not. We're not that important even in Europe thanks to our general lack of commitment towards to it... we're just a cocktease, never putting out or offering commitment but never just leaving others to get on with it.
I don't really care for a lot of the debate as I've already cast my vote, but I do care for sensible and reasoned debate over unsubstantiated claims and FUD.
I'm not sure of how smart it is to quote an editable source just prior to an election... unless wikipedia have locked all of those pages I'd say it's best to only quote first sources and verifiable figures. If you can't do this then state that this is just your opinion, as quoting wikipedia does not give your arguments any gravitas... not that it matters because...
Wikipedia doesn't account for this bit:
And my point was, do you literally believe that? Do you really truly believe that were it not for a Labour government (or 2, or 3) the entire global recession and the knock-on effect would not have occurred and that Britain would not have had a recession anyway? This isn't "Do you think it would have been as bad?", it's taking what you're asserting (that Labour caused the recession, nothing else) and holding that up to the light.
I think you credit Britain in general with too powerful a position in the world if this is the case. Hence my response that you have lived through a different history than I as the one in which you live has Britain actually placed as being important on the world stage. Really, we're really not. We're not that important even in Europe thanks to our general lack of commitment towards to it... we're just a cocktease, never putting out or offering commitment but never just leaving others to get on with it.
I don't really care for a lot of the debate as I've already cast my vote, but I do care for sensible and reasoned debate over unsubstantiated claims and FUD.