This is the type of thing I was talking about. It's the type of thing the Conservatives will pretend does not exist in their party, and will do all they can to shut up, but could, with a majority election, show itself once they're in power. That is, this is an example, albeit just one, of why the Tories are inherently fucking douche bags.
+1. There's a great post here thats says "There is much made ... about the fallacy of "argumentum ad hominem". There is, as I have mentioned in the past, no fancy Latin term for the fallacy of "giving known liars the benefit of the doubt", but it is in my view a much greater source of avoidable error in the world."
That's pretty much how I feel about the Tories. We could assume complete good faith on their part, or we could assume that the party hasn't fundamentally changed and is still committed to the conservative values that Horatio has alluding to. I think a healthy dose of scepticism is a better choice in this case than saying "Well, the mask hasn't slipped yet, so let's assume that the party really has changed and they're not all biting their lips until Cameron gets them into power".
+1. There's a great post here thats says "There is much made ... about the fallacy of "argumentum ad hominem". There is, as I have mentioned in the past, no fancy Latin term for the fallacy of "giving known liars the benefit of the doubt", but it is in my view a much greater source of avoidable error in the world."
That's pretty much how I feel about the Tories. We could assume complete good faith on their part, or we could assume that the party hasn't fundamentally changed and is still committed to the conservative values that Horatio has alluding to. I think a healthy dose of scepticism is a better choice in this case than saying "Well, the mask hasn't slipped yet, so let's assume that the party really has changed and they're not all biting their lips until Cameron gets them into power".