How to lock a Pashley Guvnor?

Yes, but this is a Guv'nor. It has steel Westwood rims, and heavy wire beaded tyres with an aramid casing. I grant you it wouldn't be so wise with a bike that was running 20mm tubs.

Of course, if the thief has an angle grinder, all bets are off. Nothing beats an angle grinder.

What about tra\ding the d locks in for a nice big chain.

I tend to lock my bike most of the time with one abus d lock and i have pretty massive clearances on the current bike. My method is to get the (relitavley) immovable object as far infront of the seat tube as the lock has reach for then got around the rim seat tube and object.

Thinking about a chain for when I will be out around the city in a few weeks

Sell the pashley. Problem solved!
Or big fuck off 18mm chain as suggested above.

+1 big fuck off chain.

Also would like to know if anybody can answer why the seatstays are removable?

Does it have something to do with chainguards?

Almost all frames had bolt-on stays in the 1930s, which is when the Guv'nor was designed. It's much easier from a manufacturing point of view, and it is plenty strong enough.

This thread is one big fat fail.

a) for reals?!! dude...
b) duh, chain lock
c) slack chain
d) nice water bottle!

Having both a GRP lock and tape measure to hand I can tell you that the internal dimensions are 11.5cm wide, 26cm long (21.5 to start of curve).

Thanks Savvy, I'll go measure up.

in all honestly, I somewhat doubt thieves realise that they can take off the rear stay by a few turn of an allen keys.

They do now. Not even allen keys, a pair of pliers would do it. I'm making this worse aren't I?

Chains? The only decent chains (16mm link +) weigh over 6kg. The bike's not light as it is, no major problem there, but I'm not stoked about carrying that much on my body, back's a bit peaky as it is.

That, and none of the 16mm+ chains are insurance compliant. I've already paid for a year.

It's the long U-Lock then. Or, as I hinted at above, buy the lightest insured lock, sit back, and wait for the inevitable.

And no sale, I like the Guvnor.

Thats the thing chris667, most modern rims are lightweight, and the strength comes from the shaped internal bridge, and tyre inflation. Old rims were heavy monstrosities, which would have any thief just walk on by. But faced with a lightweight race bike, with lightweight wheels, .....out comes the boltcropper, or battery powered angle grinder, and that wheel would be history. And the rest of the bike would be gone. Easier for a serious pro thief to steal another rear wheel from someone who felt a cable lock was good enough.

Hmm, I always use the SB method with a krypto mini and you have me worried now. In addition I habitually secure my front wheel with a kryptonite cable from the krypto mini.

Am I being lax in my locking, I wonder?

yes

Ok, at least I know now.

something of the logic of an arms race to this whole business.

does no one rely on insurance?

Why is that bike so fucking ugly? This is the question.

Pengy

Yup, OTP peng.

something of the logic of an arms race to this whole business.

does no one rely on insurance?

Of course.
I have 1x fagh mini, 1x NY3000 and 1x M&S insurance policy.

Yeah! At least Pengy is a true custom build.

For what it's worth, the bike is getting a lot of love from art directors and fashion photographers right now.

But maybe I'm kidding myself. Maybe I want one of these instead.

Of course.
I have 1x fagh mini, 1x NY3000 and 1x M&S insurance policy.

I take it the fagh mini is for your front wheel?

For what it's worth, the bike is getting a lot of love from art directors and fashion photographers right now.

But maybe I'm kidding myself. Maybe I want one of these instead.

Shows that either fashion photographers no a lot more about bikes than me, or I know a lot less about how sweet white tyres and massive clearances look with a linen suit than fashion photographers.

For what it's worth, enjoy your bike (aesthetically as well) regardless of what I think.

Thanks horatio, I do, I will.

For what it's worth, the bike is getting a lot of love from art directors and fashion photographers right now.

But maybe I'm kidding myself. Maybe I want one of these instead.

Dear oh dear... art directors and fashion photographers.

I'm so glad I just sold my road/path.

Being all about the aesthetic is fine, but all about the trend aesthetic? No thanks.