Create Deep Vs - Yay or Nay

the 'thing' about the search for quality means that as you get better, ie closer to the pinnacle...ie Quality...you have the things that look like quality, however due to the manufacturing process being obsessed with how they 'look' and not how they 'perform'....things go wrong...most 'things' are built with regard to a progression of things that went before them...ie...they are 'pointy' due to aero properties/to add strength when extruded....they have a large flange hub to cut down on spoke length...they have flat spokes because someone at DT has spent AGES trying them out so that when you by a spoke it has been made with the huge amount of knowledge and skill that 30-40-50 years building spokes has got you...

The problem arises, when a company decides to copy the most popular brand, and make a 'generic' wheel that looks like the original however has none of the 'hidden' strengths of the other wheel...just the looks.
what you get with these wheels is something that has been built to look like quality, at all expense of quality, ie...so every expense has been spared to give you a wheel that looks good based on the other wheel being good...but due to it having no testing, it will have had the casting and or extrusions...done 'on the cheap'...ie for ease of build...at an expense of cost...certain 'parts' (ie the extrusions and castings) of the wheel, were made so they were easy to make ...rather than made to perform to any degree...

totally different ethos of production...

ending in two totally different things that look the same...

one being a track wheel...made to the highest spec it can to save weight, transfer power, and asthetically please the purchaser...

the other being a 'wheel'...made to the cheapest possible spec, which adds weight, will fail upon the application of power, which cannot fill any of the criteria that the original was built for...other than they look the same..

Wasps and hover flys....to totally different things...look similar.

Know your insect!!

"clearly deserve them" sounds like outing a n00b to me

good thing we are not wasps :-)

Live and learn

they will be shit. As with everything bike-related you get what you pay for.

buy cheap, buy twice..

If you don't mind having to buy a new pair in a month, then sure. Go for it.

Heretics all of you

Quality products like these deserve high quality reall gifted owners

so ballet beau, are we going to have a prance off?

fucking hell James, give it a rest. It's just fucking weird

+1

good thing we are not wasps :-)

My old nan used to say that. She was utterly batshit mental.

yeah it's getting mighty tyresome james

try not repeating yourself quite so much
you becoming like a stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record stuck record

Remerx Taurus Deep Vs for the win. On SJS hubs they end up at around the £100 mark, and mine have taken 2 years of abuse with no problems.

I have a very similar wheelset. Remerx Taurus rims that (look like mavic cxp33) on formula hubs. Have lasted 2 years with no problems yet. Still perfectly true and only changed the bearings on the rear on Sunday. cost £120 for the set. Why waste money on this create stuff?

BTW, now way a set of deep v's built up will cost £300. You can buy a set for less at BLB and they are by no means the cheapest.

Wasps and hover flys....to totally different things...look similar.

Know your insect!!

but hover flys evolved, by mullerian mimicry, to look fearsome and be left alone.
yellow and black = leave me the fuck alone.

also, this has the added advantage of being able to panic dj if his entymology skillz are lacking.

therefore dont get a yellow or black Create Deep V - ONLY get the red one.

I haz a set for sale if you haz needz. £60 used with all the spokes and true

Reference to create and true = a lie

I squeezed it between my own thighs so it has to be!

only utter cunts dont ride these bikes or use their componentry

True dat ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AlH2oYedfk

ahahahaa...

now seriously, just by the looks of the op's pic of them wheels, the hubs seem pretty close to whot i got on my fail bike - especially interesting detail is the metal dust cap covering the bearing in the front - cup and cone mind, and in my case moon cratered cheese races right from the start.

the rear comes with sealed bearings (of doubtful quality at best with seals that should be renamed to dirt water funnels) and the axles are - to save costs - not hardened but dipped in a bit of pencil ink to make them appear dark as in hardened and solid. i'd rather have them use the pens for axles, as i am sure it would have been a tad stronger.

that translates to more miles for the money? i am aware, not every one wants to go around the world on these, but for your money, you'd expect to get back from your cornershop, right?

mavic or regida rims, on one hubs, aci spokes and it'll be lecture in wheelbuilding yuo can use for the rest of your life, or get the 'creep Vs' and have a rather short one, you choose, we told you so!

on second thoughts, scrap that, i like the blue so much.
it would definitely bring my new bike to the next level.

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