• Sorry you had to fork out Andy - I don't think you're tarring cyclists with the same brush. There are some fools riding about who give the rest of us a bad name and cause more than their fair share of accidents, sure, but at the same time there huge numbers of responsible riders who need a bit of legal protection. At least more than there is at the moment. Strict Liability doesn't automatically assume the guilt of the motorist, it just forces a decent explanation from them.

    So going back to the Dutch system, the excuse of: "I didn't see them" doesn't hold water.

    I meant 'innocent till proven guilty' in the sense that fault has to be proved to be held liable.

    Lynx - Read the highlighted point. I agree that you should be innocent until proven guilty, but it appears that the law will not change in this case.

    Alot of what has been written on the forum regarding incidents is that not enough effort has gone into apportioning blame (or atleast trying to), to me (IMO) this looks like a lack of effort from the police (generalisation?). If this proposed change makes them and others stop and think and possibly even act differently then it is a positive change, and one which we should actively encourage.

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