• it's about roads.

    pedestrian > bike > motorbike > car > HGV

    that's it. no trains.

    I agree, I think you'll find it wasn't I who brought trains and planes into the argument.

    People have strict liability in .fr and .nl and seem to cope with driving vehicles.
    it's rather nicer to cycle in those countries than here, spot the link yet?

    ...you're trying to say the reason it's nicer to cycle in France/Holland is because the motorists are always seen to be at fault? Seriously?

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