Why is America better then England at freedom

The vitriol that the first post created is exactly what happens whenever that 'sort of thing' is ever mentioned, ie that the goverment and your freedom do not really exist...and even the most hardened men have a tiz...talk about getting your tinfoil knickers in a twist.

re: govt.

tynan is a large critic of governments. he manages to do it in a way that is coherent, evidence based, and cutting, because it is based on facts. not jibberish. read his posts to get an idea of how to criticise the government.

So, after everyone has called you a fucking idiot then you get somene saying I did a degree in electrical engineering and I didn't find 'free energy' well....excuse me for taking the piss, you took a course and repeated it verbatim to get a grade.
Well done.

you say you are an artist. so i am going to suggest - you haven't got a science degree. if you had, you would know you actually have to submit original research.

You want proof that 'this' electricity isn't healthy, then you take your family and live under a power line. Luekemia anyone?
You think the goverment haven't trried to cover that up in the past?

wait wait wait. you're trying to suggest, that low level exposure to electromagnetic radiation from household currents caused cancer? no. that high level acute exposure to electromagnetic radiation causes cancer? no one denies that. what the safe level of exposure is is debated. [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation_and_health[/ame]

but why would the government try to cover this up? if lots of people were getting cancer from this, nhs costs would rocket, nhs service would fall, public opinion of govt would lapse, govt would get kicked out. and it can't be for £££ as no one would make money out of this. UK healthcare is publicly funded.

For something to be affected in this way means some sort of 'partial' faraday cage is in effect, or something operating in a similar manner.

what the fuck are you talking about?

anyway, as I said before, this was about freedom, that includes me ruffling feathers by bringing this subject up.

non-credible rambling ≠ ruffling feathers

She's a girl, leave it mate

She's a girl, leave it mate

She's an idiot. Sex does not count, here.

You know why posting links is fruitless, because those of you that havent' looked at it already, really are missing the point. 'You' live in a world that is begging for you to question how it works, and you as yet havent.

why would a link help? that boat is already sailing i'm afraid.

and also this, evidence always helps.

it's not like einstein said "e=mc^2" and then fucked off. nah, he proved it. with evidence.

Isn't The Dog Whisperer on tonight?

Isn't The Dog Whisperer on tonight?

Dunno, but The Arse Whisperers is definitely on on this thread!

http://zapatopi.net/kelvin/papers/on_electric_machines.html

Free energy sounds like reptilian technology to me.

http://www.lutec.com.au/

there you go. Its on the internets and they have videos! just add to basket.

I still reckon there's something going on.

I still reckon there's something going on.

it spins.
but i think if you order it a sniper will take you out.

you must spread..blah blah

COD almighty what a stupid comment ;p

can we plaice turn this thread into a fish pun list?

You know why posting links is fruitless, because those of you that havent' looked at it already, really are missing the point. 'You' live in a world that is begging for you to question how it works, and you as yet havent.

why would a link help? that boat is already sailing i'm afraid.

Please don't just assume that other people are unthinking idiots. You're walking through the world, looking at everyone except those who have the exact same set of beliefs and ideas as you, and assuming that they are all helpless fools. It's patronising and arrogant, and you miss out on a lot of interesting conversations by just writing people off. Maybe you need to broaden your mind to the fascinating wealth of knowledge and experience in the world. There's a lot of very clever people out there, actually doing all kinds of amazing, world-changing stuff, rather than just reading other people's fantasies on the internet.

as i ate my chicken fajitas i was in a considerable confusion. i thought that people like you only existed in america. but anyway.

here is why the us govt isn't keeping a "free energy" (whatever you take that to mean) machine secret.

1. if you (think) you know about this, the us military certainly would
   
2. the us military would certainly use this
   
3. therefore, many people would know. people can't keep their mouths shut.
   
4. therefore, in this media saturated society, everyone would know.
   
   

now, i guess you could take issue with point 2, but, i don't think you're going to engage with me at all.

Can we get back to the Fry video with the US prison stats please?

The fucking military are up to something for sure.

Thats is all very well, however after my first post your retort was 'Fucking Idiot'...

Fair point, it's hypocritical of me to suggest that you avoid personal attack, after all I did call you (well I don't know you personally, but certainly your ideas) idiotic.

But that is all it is hypocritical. I am not defending a claim I have made, I am suggesting you (not me and my - as you rightly say - hypocritical posts) but you should try and explain the reasoning behind your stance, show people the evidence, rather than attacking their character.

Think of it like this:

You go to the doctor, she tells you that you are overweight and as a habitual chain smoker that you are at risk of a heart attack unless you quit the smoking and change your diet . .

. . . all that sounds like reasonable advice you think, but then you take a look at the doctor, she is fat, very fat, and as she gives you this advice she is stuffing her face with the third doughnut she has eaten since you entered the room, and as you leave she lights up a cigarette from a nearly empty carton of 500 and opens a Pot Noodle.

Now there are many people who would think, fuck her and her advice, she is a hypocritical fat bastard, how can she tell me what to eat and not to smoke, just look at her, the fat fuck.

But . . . her advice on diet would be valid whether she is fat or not, and her advice on smoking would be valid whether she is a chain smoker or not. The advice is valid (or not) on it's own merits.

Think of me like that, a fat, chain smoking doctor who is telling you that being fat and smoking is bad for you, hypocritical ? Sure, but
the point still stands - you would do better getting these ideas over to people if you simply provided good credible evidence to back up the claims instead of attacking people's character.

You want proof that 'this' electricity isn't healthy, then you take your family and live under a power line. Luekemia anyone?
You think the goverment haven't trried to cover that up in the past?

This is terrible news, but going back to the free energy machine for a moment, can you show me the evidence that supports the claims of a free energy device ?

You know why posting links is fruitless, because those of you that havent' looked at it already, really are missing the point. 'You' live in a world that is begging for you to question how it works, and you as yet havent.

why would a link help? that boat is already sailing i'm afraid.

Which section are we in now ? I am getting lost, I though we were nearly at 'you work for the government ?' section !? I am going have to guess this one, I reckon 'why would a link help?' is probably best served by 'Why, you wouldn't read it anyway.' (see XXXX below)

**A: **There is plenty of proof for free power you just need to look

**B: **Can you point me towards an example so I can see for myself

**A: **I am not your fucking slave, get up off your arse and Google it for yourself

**B: **I have done, but couldn't find anything credible to support the idea

**A: **Yeah, that's because you are deliberately searching for stupid conspiracy theories and not the genuine information

**B: **Can you then point me toward this genuine information ?

**A: **Why can't you do your own fucking research ?

**B: **Like I say I have tried but have found nothing ?

**A: **You don't want to find anything you just want to mock the idea.

**B: **Well why don't you point me towards the information that lead you to believe the idea is viable

**A: **Whats the point you wouldn't believe it anyway.

**B: **Can I take a look just so I can see what this information is ?

XXXX A: *Why, you wouldn't read it anyway.*XXXX

**B: **I promise I would.

**A: **Do you even realize that GM foods are designed to induce AUTISM !

**B: **Yes that's great, but could we stick to the free energy thing, can you show me your proof ?

**A: **You fucking work for the government.

But seriously, joking aside, if you do have a link to good credible evidence please post it here in this thread, I am sure many people would be interested, there may well also be many people who have in no way been critical of your ideas who would like to take a look too.

can we plaice turn this thread into a fish pun list?

No! Sucker off. We've done fish puns so many times it's more boring than a government conspiracy. :)

you're not even german are you, i've got the evidence to prove it. but you can't see it.

wingedangel, do you know who you sound like? you sound exactly like the government when they put people under house arrest but don't tell them what crime they are under investigation for or reveal any of the evidence against them.

Link?

you're not even german are you, i've got the evidence to prove it. but you can't see it.

wingedangel, do you know who you sound like? you sound exactly like the government when they put people under house arrest but don't tell them what crime they are under investigation for or reveal any of the evidence against them.

You edited your post! After you posted it! It only went 'you're not even german are you, i've got the evidence to prove it.' at first!

tynan is a large critic of governments.

How fucking dare you, sure I put on a few pounds over Christmas and my drinking is wildly out of control, but I can still fit into those stretch jeans I bought in 1992.

Link?

bang!

and in case bbc is too close to state-run media for yaz bang!

Winged Angel is merely following the guidelines set for Climate Science- refuse to share the source data with anyone else, and then call them an idiot for not agreeing with you.