• Get a grip, The whole Op original discussion was discussing freedom...?

    yes, and you have provided no social, political, or philosophical arguments or even statements about freedom, except providing a demonstration that people are free to think total bullshit, but i'm not sure you can take credit for that

    enjoy the telly this afternoon won't you.

    yes, yes i will, not sure if there's any doctor who on, but there is stuff like this on, based on, ya know, empirical evidence and well thought out and supported theories.

    ps...The Sun works...somehow it just does..we can't explain it properly, though by your rationale... it cannot happen and therefore cannot exist.

    see the TV program above.

    now, for this tesla free energy shit, the first google hit for "tesla free energy" (could you suggest any better terms?) is this, which suggests, that this "free energy" is not actually, energy from nothing, but is utilizing the suns energy. now, i am going to postulate something quite simple: it didn't work. according to that link, it was based on capacitors (which are like batteries, basically, charge is stored on a metal plate), capacitors today can only hold fuck all charge. so back in the day, they could have held much less than fuck all. thus being useless. and, according to that link, it is simple to make, so go off and make one. and if talking about freedom, tesla ain't exactly a champion of it, having over 200 patents [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tesla_patents"]200 patents[/ame] that could be more beneficial for people if they were freely available.

    and and and and and, research regarding [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Transmission_of_Electricity"]wireless energy transfer[/ame] is still ongoing

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