Cycling and Risk Taking survey

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  • The safest option is to approach it on the outside. jump the lights and carry on your way
    Second is the pavement option
    Third is wait behind it

    What happens if you pass to the outside of the truck but cross traffic gets to the point that you can't jump the red lights putting you in the drivers unawareness spot (pretty much like a blind spot) until the lights change? Does this not fuck up your plan.

    The pavement is almost always a shit option to me. Pedestrians are erratic and inattentive in their zone. If you're coming from the pavement to cross a road it rarely registers with drivers (which is why I rarely ever use bike lanes that emulate this).

    How is waiting behind safest. You have control over your visibility to the driver and the distance between you and the truck. Essentially the ball is in your court and you are almost solely responsible for your own safety.

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  • Exactly. I wrote that in the comments section too

    The safest option is to approach it on the outside. jump the lights and carry on your way
    Second is the pavement option
    Third is wait behind it

    All the others are suicidal options for any of the lorry questions

    What? How is waiting behind it less safe than overtaking it and jumping a red?

  • I generally operate on the "the farther you are away the lower the risk". So safely jumping the lights and getting the hell away is better than still having to pass the truck but now whilst it's moving.

  • Done, I waited behind on each, though it would depend on the width of the road amongst other things.

    I did make comments that my actions are more dependant on the geography of the junction, prior and current actions of the driver, levels and activity of other traffic. If any of them impact what I think is safe I default to the wait behind position.

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  • I generally operate on the "the farther you are away the lower the risk". So safely jumping the lights and getting the hell away is better than still having to pass the truck but now whilst it's moving.

    But to get further away, you have to first go a lot closer and into areas of poor control. If you can't make that RLJ then your whole plan is fucked and failed.

  • Your RLJ plan is hampered by the lack of vision caused by the large truck too.

    You lot are massive fail.

  • waiting behind is the safest esp if the lorry isn't indicating... even if it is it might swing right to turn left thus reducing any space you have dramatically

  • The truck could reverse by mistake. A driver could come up behind me smash into me and knock me under the truck. I just hate being anywhere near the things and do what I can to get as far away from them as possible. Its my personal preference, has worked for me all these years and is not something I would ever change

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    I clarified my positioning on which side to filter, offside being the safest and holding position behind if there is not enough time left in the red signal.

    Was a pretty good questionnaire IMO. The wording is confusing the first time you read it, read again and it makes sense. The comment boxes allow you to elaborate which is a nice feature.

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  • RLJ plan only an option when there are 2 lanes and the truck is in the left. I come down the right lane and jump the red. If something happens before I get to the lights, I revise my plan. Even to the extent of turing right when I wanted to go straight. Thats happened a few times

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  • The survey did imply it was safe to RLJ. If there wasn't space to pass and it wasn't safe to jump, then I wouldn't.

    I answered based on my interpretations of the questions.

  • Done too, though agree that the options aren't great in some questions. Commented on that.

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    It would be interesting to see if the prescence of ASL's and the little green filter cycle lanes effect people's judgements though.

  • RLJ plan only an option when there are 2 lanes and the truck is in the left. I come down the right lane and jump the red. If something happens before I get to the lights, I revise my plan and aim for the nearest Lamborghini.....

    Fixed

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    Option D made it difficult. I tend to ride the white line, and will only overtake that truck if I've got adequate momentum to ensure Im safely past if that light changes. Otherwise wait behind.

    The answer doesnt make the distinction between undertake/overtake.

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    i rated waiting behind as safest. If you pass on either side, you are at risk if the lights change too soon, and what if the lorry turns right or drifts right to turn left? I only pass if i know i'll have time and space to get clear of the lorry (just saw lights turn red so know it's a while until green, junction design will let me get far enough ahead to be easily seen from cab).

    Getting onto the pavement creates risk and hassle as you leave and rejoin the road. Can surprise other road users.

    Sitting behind in the middle right of your lane makes you very obvious to anyone behind you (unless they are also a close-up lorry with a high cab). Only risk is pulling off behind a motor vehicle you don't get much warning of pot-holes.

  • The truck could reverse by mistake. A driver could come up behind me smash into me and knock me under the truck. I just hate being anywhere near the things and do what I can to get as far away from them as possible. Its my personal preference, has worked for me all these years and is not something I would ever change

    If the truck goes into reverse, the reversing lights come on, giving you a fair option to move before it does so. The lights come on before the clutch is even engaged. Even then, if this is a mistake, the driver is very unlikely to shoot back a great distance. A slight jink backwards is enough to make a driver aware of their mistake and disengage. As long as you aren't foolish enough to sit six inches off the back of the truck the risk is almost negligible.

    As for a driver coming up behind you and smashing you into the back of the truck. I haven't done any research on this but I think you are more likely to get nailed on an RLJ than that happening. Just because something works, doesn't mean it's right or safer.

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