Twitchy steering..?

I prefer old fork, now you're gonna complain about pedal overlap and stiff ride on the road. Oh well, that's more money spend in the sport industry which I do like.

I prefer old fork, now you're gonna complain about pedal overlap and stiff ride on the road. Oh well, that's more money spend in the sport industry which I do like.

All in the name of perfection eh!

Thats all good, that means my project isn't quite finished, which makes me happy ;-)

I prefer old fork, now you're gonna complain about pedal overlap and stiff ride on the road. Oh well, that's more money spend in the sport industry which I do like.

Pedal overlap possibly, but stiff ride? The new fork is carbon not aluminium.

I ride a 1947 Hobbs and found the steering poor with a short stem ,putting a longer one on (4 1/2 inch) seems to have improved things no end and my weight distribution is better.

I've always thought carbon forks were the stiffest thing, are they not?

I ride a 1947 Hobbs and found the steering poor with a short stem ,putting a longer one on (4 1/2 inch) seems to have improved things no end and my weight distribution is better.

I'd put the handling down to the betterweight distribution (IMHO).

I've always thought carbon forks were the stiffest thing, are they not?

Should be pretty compliant, especially in combination with a steel frame.

I've always thought carbon forks were the stiffest thing, are they not?

They are laterally stiff but they also provide good comfort levels as supposedly eliminate road buzz. Same can go with carbon frames.
Where have you been in the last few years :-)

I can't say I can really notice the difference between steel or carbon but I don't think carbon makes it better/worse.
Aluminium forks are a different matter so I can feel some differences!

The last few years, I've been studying sport product design LOL
I was just assuming, since stiffness/weight ratio or carbon is way higher than steel, I'm guessing that it is not the only factor to consider then. The hardness will probably be quite important and carbon is definatly less hard that any metal.

The last few years, I've been studying sport product design LOL
I was just assuming, since stiffness/weight ratio or carbon is way higher than steel, I'm guessing that it is not the only factor to consider then. The hardness will probably be quite important and carbon is definatly less hard that any metal.

Probably need to get some practical experience to accompany your study as assumptions are not usually a good thing :-)

you want to give me a design job? I'll test what ever you want ;)

you want to give me a design job? I'll test what ever you want ;)

No thanks. You seem to be someone who wants others to do the work for you while you just sit back and guess/make assumptions :-)

Wow, nice words! but that's just an other assumption. There is nothing wrong with discussing theory with the help of people with direct practical experience. Designers sometimes cannot get this experience themselves and have to make-do.

Wow, nice words! but that's just an other assumption. There is nothing wrong with discussing theory with the help of people with direct practical experience. Designers sometimes cannot get this experience themselves and have to make-do.

I was only joking! I will book you in for an interview next time I have an opening.

As for designers not being able to get the experience that all depends how hard they want to try I suppose. If I were a bike designer I would at the very least have ridden all the common frame/fork materials before making any judgements (backed up by the readily available data).

But then I am someone who puts effort into their work :-)

Im getting the forks re-tapped on the 11th, a small price to pay but its at the local bike store which makes it easy for me...

In regards to carbon, its strong but flexible in my eyes... the carbon is what holds it together, and the resin is just the flexible coating.

You know those pictures of people standing on carbon bonnets of cars? Always flexing but do not break, it'll be like riding with my wheel attached to two jellybabies ;-)

Carbon will make for a better ride in my opinion. Hope it works well for you.

As for designers not being able to get the experience that all depends how hard they want to try I suppose. If I were a bike designer I would at the very least have ridden all the common frame/fork materials before making any judgements (backed up by the readily available data).

Actualy I do agree with you, I just have the tendency to stir up arguments for the fun of it. You'll find that a lot of designers doing sports stuff don't know shit about the sport and that a lot of sportsmen doing design don't know shit about design. Don't get me even started on marketing people...
Personaly, I'm slowly getting into cycling, gathering knowledge and getting as much riding experience as I can. It's a lot of investment though, very difficult if you want to broaden to a range of sports, especialy for a student.
Appologies for thread hijack.

out of topic,youre using front brake for ur bike and ure using high profile whelset w/o braking surface,do you face any problem with that?

The front wheel has a braking surface...

Update!

http://www.lfgss.com/thread39454.html#post1266275

Trouble with getting the forks rethreaded... Ughh...

I had a really bad case of speed wobbles

wvm's post about this saved me at the weekend as I clamped the top tube with my legs to brin it back under control.

Just dance the wobbles away..

A little update for people who care...

I've eventually got (most) of the bits for the conversion.

Pics below, just need some Syntace Aero levers and a cable and its good to go (again) and need to put the tape on.

Also need to chop the top off the steerer tube and get the cap on!

With all this sorted my steering should be much nicer, it feels better already and is amazingly light!

What forks are those then?

Ah they are Time Equipe Pro's

Very good quality early-ish carbon forks with steel steerer. They were threaded but the conversion is the best thing ive done, feels solid.

Hi. Have nothing to add but if you decide to get I ride of the bars I will take them! I've got some straight, flat nitto bars you might like!