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@sweatpee
there isn't really a difference between a 'touring bike' and an 'expedition bike', i suppose some touring frames can be quite lightweight and perhaps not so good for heavy loaded touring [expedition] but essentially it's just a different name for the same thing. the sutra is very strong but it it also heavy and overpriced as are pretty much all off the peg touring bikes although the sutra does come with a front and rear rack but those components are pretty shit.