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also what are thoughts on this frame?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&&item=170445387013&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:GB:1120
worth the money? bit boring? or lovely? i like the paint, and i think i like the geo (cant tell so well without wheels), but i'm not so happy with my last frame and i had the same thoughts.
edit* thanks mdcc, and olly, hadn't refreshed the page, i am a sucker for koga miyata stuff