Pantani

You appear to be mixing up Floyd Landis and Marco Pantani. Landis is still very much alive.

A typo...i put Floyd Landis and then deleted it...yes...Pantani very much dead and Landis alive but i would not wish him dead!

Where is your evidence? Did he ever fail a test? Same goes for Lance!

And FloJo...

sad end to an amazing rider. interesting article on his steed...gagging for a replica building me thinks:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/marco-pantanis-1998-mercatone-uno-bianchi-mega-pro-xl-reparto-corse

Fuck me, d'ya reckon he actually climbed on a min of 44x23 or is that just his flat stage setup ?

And FloJo...

[a] she died and [b] she admitted taking drugs before her death i believe.

Mig and Lance are in the clear....innocent until proven guilty etc unless you have verifiable evidence to the contrary? Unlike Pantani or Landis.

FloJo's dead?!? Fuck!?!

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sad end to an amazing rider. interesting article on his steed...gagging for a replica building me thinks:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/marco-pantanis-1998-mercatone-uno-bianchi-mega-pro-xl-reparto-corse

That actual bike is in an LBS in Milton Keynes. I think it's this one: http://www.twenty3c.co.uk/

Edit: In the bottom-left picture, by the window. http://www.twenty3c.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=22&Itemid=43

Must've been during one of your afternoon naps, Joe

Big Mig and EPO....seems the *allegations *are just that....lies and innuendo!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jul/21/big-mig-rode-high-in-1990s/

FloJo's dead?!? Fuck!?!

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21 September 1998 [save you the effort]

The bald person the right is Harry Hill, shouting fight!

Must've been during one of your afternoon naps, Joe

21 September 1998 [save you the effort]

Yup, caught nappin'...

fuck the doping and the tests,

they were all on it, therefore the competition was equal.

what about the performance enhancing lycra, thats the real cheat.

Yup, caught nappin'...

I have a whole list of people about whom I don't know for certain whether they're dead or alive. I wouldn't be surprised either way.

fuck the doping and the tests,

they were all on it, therefore the competition was equal.

what about the performance enhancing lycra, thats the real cheat.

So guilt by association, eh!! Evidence!!! As for lycra, mea culpa as before lycra i would do a 25 in 90 minutes and with lycra.....89 minutes!

I'm not going to argue with a prick like you, but if you seriously believe that Indurain and Armstrong won the Tour de France without using dope then I've a lovely bridge I'm selling for a reasonable price.

I'm not going to argue with a prick like you, but if you seriously believe that Indurain and Armstrong won the Tour de France without using dope then I've a lovely bridge I'm selling for a reasonable price.

TBH if Mig was on EPO, I'd have expected him to be better in the mountains.

Not trying to add fuel to a fire. But why is it so hard to believe that some people could be so supremely talented and , add hard work on top of that, could win the tour without cheating?

It isn't. But the last person to do that was probably Greg Lemond.

To be fair,

none of US know who was on dope, did dope, got doped, didnt dope, we only know what we have read.

the only people who 100% know for sure are the people involved. anything else is opinion.

TBH if Mig was on EPO, I'd have expected him to be better in the mountains.

An 80 kg 1m 90 tall man who could drop all but the finest climbers and you still expect him to be better? Go and revisit his Tour wins, he'd gain time in the time trials and then eliminate all but one or two of his rivals on the first mountain stage then defend that lead to the finish. It was very effective, and pretty dull to watch.

We've done this all before. Go see the Lance Armstrong thread.

They doped. Deal with it. End of.

To be fair,

none of US know who was on dope, did dope, got doped, didnt dope, we only know what we have read.

the only people who 100% know for sure are the people involved. anything else is opinion.

Indeed. But there is informed opinion and misinformed opinion. The fact that Armstrong had traces of EPO in at least six of his samples from the 1999 Tour would suggest that he doped, no?

We've done this all before. Go see the Lance Armstrong thread.

They doped. Deal with it. End of.

Amen.

I'm not going to argue with a prick like you, but if you seriously believe that Indurain and Armstrong won the Tour de France without using dope then I've a lovely bridge I'm selling for a reasonable price.

I am not asking for an argument, just evidence? Do you have any? All you have to offer is innuendo, so don't bother. Your attitude is rather sad and predictable but i won't sink to your pathetic level!