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instinct says its the made in china thing for sure. nike moved some of their manufacturing from vietnam and thailand to china and the new shoes are shitty. original vans were always a super skinny fit. perfect for better board feel and control when skating. really nice shoe. they have gone super mainstream though recently no? really taken off. i wonder if that has anything to do with it, and if they are purposely wider to be more like a nike 6.0...also everywhere.