Twitchy steering..?

You are claiming the drops are narrow from a side on photo? Your eyes are better than mine.

Anyway, if you can ride well with wide drops you can ride well with skinny drops.

You are claiming the drops are narrow from a side on photo? Your eyes are better than mine.

Anyway, if you can ride well with wide drops you can ride well with skinny drops.

No my eyes cant be better than yours. I got reading glasses on now ha ha. But I have found that narrower bars make the steering more twitchy whereas wider bars are less twitchy. Of course the bars on the bike above might be wide. But they look like narrow track ones to my eye eye!! The fella will have to measure the width of his bars!!

You are claiming the drops are narrow from a side on photo? Your eyes are better than mine.

Nah, he has one of those image scanning machines, like Deckard in Bladerunner uses. He can rotate images and stuff!!

"enhance!"

Nah, he has one of those image scanning machines, like Deckard in Bladerunner uses. He can rotate images and stuff!!

My secrets out!! for fucks sake!!

no but that is just depth perception
it looks like those bars are narrow
look at the length of the brake lever in comparison

I still reckon it's just an issue with the owner and getting used to the bike. If he's eliminated headset and crooked bits, a bike with a wheelbase that long should be far more 'stable' than say my road bike. If he used to ride mtb perhaps it's just getting used to skinnier bars (if they are skinnier)? I dunno.

I still reckon it's just an issue with the owner and getting used to the bike. If he's eliminated headset and crooked bits, a bike with a wheelbase that long should be far more 'stable' than say my road bike. If he used to ride mtb perhaps it's just getting used to skinnier bars (if they are skinnier)? I dunno.

PLus going from riding MTB with big fat tyres to riding a road bike with skinny tyres will make the bike feel twitchy. So may not be the bars!!

i concur with kerley

steering axis and rake of forks make it look like there's very little trail

I still think it looks like it has very low trail which would give it a different feel to most bikes.

Looks similar to this. Have you measured the rake of the fork as it looks large.

This was my first thought too. Seems weird though, if the frame and fork are designed to be together.

Hey! all th talk while Ive been away!

They are indeed some Nitto b125's...

I have a geared road as well which handles fine, but is on a newer frame.

I believe it must be a combination of old frame geometry mixed with track low level bars.

Which leaves me with two options:
New forks! nice!
or new handle bars
or a combination of both...
(*edit - three options!)

Would be nice to get some lovely carbon forks with less rake!!

NIm23, have you tried turning up the bars?. I dont have mine in such a racing position like yours mate. Wider bars might be cheaper option than the forks. Carbon forks are nice of course.

From the side on aspect of the photo all looks well - saddle position looks OK to me and a longer fork rake should make the bike less twitchy and more stable.

But is the frame itself true? Forks and downtube look OK in the pic, but it may be worth getting a frame builder to stick it in a jig and check vertical alignments and twists...

clearly there's a little ignorance around trail and rake, explained here > http://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/2007/05/trail-fork-rake-and-little-bit-of.html

Another side on image

The angle isnt too slack, maybe its just the track bars making it a little harder?

Another side on image

The angle isnt too slack, maybe its just the track bars making it a little harder?

I agree, the angle looks fine to me aswell. I still think its the bars aswell. Just from personal experience!!

The longer rake fork would make it handle like a Volvo, try running a normal front wheel to rule out any issues with the deep section.

can i just say. twictchy steering or not
your bike is sexy

The frame looks, maybe, a couple of cm too big for you (TT length-wise mostly). The saddle brought to the front of the seatpost and short stem reach might be the cause?

^Don't listen to him.

Just noticed the saddle right forward. Not really ideal!

stick some risers on it, or just get used to riding it? This thread is a little on the side, I'm afraid to say...

check that your hands are on the right way too, a common fail for noobs is putting the left hand on the right side and vice versa. Did you also check that you put the left bartape on the left side and not the right? This can fuck things up real bad....

Did you also check that you put the left bartape on the left side and not the right? This can fuck things up real bad....

Oh fucking hell yeah, makes your bike steer all backwards, left turns you right, etc. Also it ruins your aerodynamic edge.

Did you also check that you put the left bartape on the left side and not the right? This can fuck things up real bad....

i concur, ive been doing it for years
then they were switched by a pro and now its miles better