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@kerley
Yes, well losing 26kgs is clearly different!
What I am getting at is losing 4kg from a 8kg bike (theoretical) is halfing it's weight whereas losing 4kg from an 80kg person is not really going to be felt.
And if you raced against a person who was exactly your equal but riding a 15lb bike you would then be looking to reduce that 25lb bike to match theirs. Guessing you mates on their flashy bikes are just slow.