• is this with brakes and the std wheelset, saddle, seatpost etc?

    im interested to know if it would be possible to whittle down to the 6.5kg mark

    or is that Optimistic

    Definitely doable.

    It just gets a bit expensive. Like Kerley says 7.5 might be a better option. For the record my Bob Jackson weighs around 7.5 kg. I would have thought the F&F are nearly a kilo heavier (a kilo of pure 'real' mind) than the langster Alu with carbon fork.

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