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  • I have thought about putting something together myself but I would rather get something off the peg. And there's a fairly long wait for even OTP Jackson frames..?
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    TBH as tourers have lots of bits and dodas, OTP can save a lot of money. People like Thorn/SJS still let you tweek things to your needs though.

    I've seen last year's Kona Jake the Snake for a good price so I'm going to try one out. Anything else like that I should be looking at?

    Well thats a CycloX bike, and doesnt even have mudguard eyelets. My Utility bike is based around a CycloX frame, which has slightly faster/stiffer handling than a typical tourer/audax. Its a decent load carrrier, but I would'nt want to do uber miles on it. I have done 100km, while carrying 8 bed legs and a big bag of metal fittings, which was OK. But far from ideal. (based on this frame)
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Graham-Weigh-56cm-Cyclocross-Frame-Matt-Black_W0QQitemZ260545293987QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxq20100130?IMSfp=TL100130136001r5435

    The Soma double cross is a frameset that claims to cope with some light touring.
    http://somafab.com/doublecross_one.html

    the Surly cross check is pretty similar.
    http://www.surlybikes.com/bikes/cross_check_complete/

    CycloX bikes dont have the chainstay length to move the rear pannier away from your feet though (doable though). The quicker handling and shorter chainstays can make loaded climbing a bit of a PITA.

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