• Sorry to sound contrary but why is titanium 'the whole hog'?

    well, a custom built steel frame is expensive £700ish but a custom built ti frame is £950 and up, Burls was the cheapest guy i found and doing custom built frames by a longshot, most others i inquired about were closer to £1500.

    dont get me wrong there's nothing wrong with steel, infact i think steel frames have a lot more character, and often have a lot more of the builder in them, but titanium is such a joy to ride. weight wise comfort wise performance wise. plus it will never rust, whe i took out my bb to give it a clean the ohter day there was a pool of rusty water in the bb shell! but the frame was sweet as a nut, a bit of rust on the outside of the BB mind you. it will never break (unless you get a shitty frame and the brazing comes undone) or dent. when i ride over cobbles i only get vibration through my hands from the carbon forks, ti is like riding on a cloud or one of these vv

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