Lance Armstrong... greatest doper there was or ever will be

I also think the Shell comparison is very harsh, he's only a biker and hes doing he best to help others, which is more than most people do, without any real ulterior motives (yes ego, but i agree with Hippy ego isnt a bad thing)

i really think give the guy a break, hes just a cyclist living a life and doing stuff, there are worse people doing much much worse things - use energy to shout at them not Lance.

The most interesting thing to come up here is what Ro-land says about him using influence to stop cycling cleaning up, how so, could you elaborate, this the most damning argument ive heard against him.
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As a long standing fan of professional cycling I care about it's future. The last 20 years have seen drug usage become the norm with a governing body that is, at worst, complicit in the widespread usage of performance enhancing drugs that turn pack fodder like Bjarne Riis or Claudio Chiappucci, into Tour de France contenders and winners. In some respects you can add Armstrong to that category as his pre-cancer performances suggested he'd never have what it takes to win the Tour. That changed after he overcame cancer, but was due to him working with Dr Michele Ferrari, the cognescenti's doping doctor supreme, rather than any mythical weight loss.

Armstrong has subsequently used the power he has and his bullying personality to ensure that the omerta that surrounds drug taking is enforced, and has received the protection of the UCI as his reward.

He's done some good work too but his influence on cycling is a negative one in my opinion. I'll continue to shout at him, your words, because I care about pro cycling. I appreciate that's a trivial thing but it's what I'm passionate about so to me, it matters.