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@Shinscar
Cheers todd happy with the bars now... the sweep and rise is good, for angled adjustments.
After putting the seat post in i was riding down the street looking down at the back end of my bike (not really looking where i was going)... its ace... probably even better with a mallet in your hand and a ball on the floor. Shit i havent moved the saddle back...EPIC!
I think a standard marathon is the way to go... 14's still doing those randoneurs... may have a look later. colours too ;)