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@Skülly
sorry if this is a boring question, but can anyone enlighten me about the bosses on the seat stays of the Bates? There's a courier guy some of you may know called Bart (or was it Homer?) who rides a gold 'road/path' Bates with chrome ends, I've stopped for a chat and had a butchers' at the bosses on his - I assume they're mudguard eyes, but his only has one set, and the pair just above the curves on the fork too. Is the second pair on this^ one for a rack?