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Cycle Surgery were closed last night and the outdoors store were charging £20 for merino liners and £7 for too-small synthetic liners so I gave up. In town it seems ok with just the windstopper gloves (although these are old and tired and have holes in them). Out of town for longer stuff I need something more.. just not sure if I should go for a liner or wear the Thinsulate woolly-type gloves over the windstoppers.. So much material and it's almost as if your hands were numb anyway.