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I too count many such people among my friends. Some dude made a sarky comment amount me buying coffee and chocolate at the cafe yesterday. Grr....
Roofs are still a closed book to me, just managed a short(6ft) roof section in the tunnel at the castle once. The tunnel is gone now to make for one big roofed space open on one side maybe 8ft deep and 30ft wide, with 1 or 2 features projecting down from the ceiling. Looked at the routes and it's a pretty pro section with little to get you started on. Maybe have to go on a quiet afternoon when the hardcore aren't about.