• But again- both sides will make the same argument about the risk.

    Does this sound familiar?

    • it's just a way for the council to make money

    Was that a cyclist or a motorist?

    To a motorist exceeding the speed limit in certain circumstances is not a dangerous activity

    To a cyclist going through a red light in certain circumstances is not a dangerous activity.

    Point out to either the cyclist or the motorist that it can be dangerous and the response will be the same:

    • might be when other people do it, not me though, I'm always careful
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