Charge Plug

JV: They downgraded the Sugino Messenger to a new cheaper crank that I am told was made specially for Charge to lower costs. Not sure if the BB changed.

Ed: Your saying the same thing as me. But we are drawing different conclusions"

• Me: "Its a con, and people that don't know about bikes are falling for it, and getting disappointed when the rivets fall out of their brake levers whilst they are riding."
  -You: "Oh well. They don't know as much as us, so it doesn't matter."
  
  

Charge should up the quality control and the other manufacturers should make their bikes look nice. And Bianchi. What can I say about that hunk of over price crap. Oh, said it.

EDIT: Basically I don't believe that the public, that commuters, people that don't know about bikes in depth or whatever else you should want to call them should be exploited (over-statement I know) and that manufacturers should build good bikes at all price points, and sale assistants should give better advise. I want a better world, where bicycle owners don't pay unnecessarily down the line. obvious example: Unicack.