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@cornelius_blackfoot
my usual spoke calculator came up with 306 3x for a rear high flange phil to open pro. Which I've been told is really really stupid, just used ehrenfriedchicken's spoke calc and that is now giving me 293.3 for the left and 291.6 for the right.
spoke to dogsballs at the christmas party and he was saying off the top of his head spoke length for that build was about 292.
Just lookin for confirmation that 292mm or 294mm is the way to go.
many thanks
by the way these wheels are going to go on the travelling bike.