Rust Removal solution... Deox

My main passion is classic cars, so I have some experience of dealing with rust. As a newbie I thought I'd share something you may be interested in...* I have NOTHING to do with this company except being a satisfied long term customer.*

http://www.bilthamber.com/deoxc.html

I have used Deox in powder form when you have parts you can soak, eg engine & suspension parts, and the gel form on bits you cant easily submerge, like bodywork etc. Soaking parts for a few hours to overnight strips 100% of rust, and the gel applied and sealed with clingfilm for a day or 2 will do the same.

The first time I used it was on my old garage vice, so I thought I'd post up some pics of the process and results. I think it will be perfect for bike parts and the gel on forks and frames.

Before - 30+ years of rust

Soaking in Deox C solution for about 3 hours

afterwards - Deox C only

I am pretty sure this stuff will make prep on old frames and parts a bit easier, and it doesnt need any special precautions to use it.

I've not restored an old frame or bike yet so cant offer any examples but thought it might be something new for those of you working on those gorgeous old projects. They have pretty much the best rust prevention coatings as well, and the stuff is pretty cheap :)

Hope its of some use...

wow, that stuff looks great. might be hard to get enough to soak a whole frame though.

wow, that stuff looks great. might be hard to get enough to soak a whole frame though.

the best way to do a frame would be with gel I suspect, and it would probably only need a reasonable amount. You slap it on and wrap in clingfilm and leave it. As long as it doesnt dry out it keeps eating the rust.

Ok I'll try here before starting a new thread and get flamed...

I have rust problem on my motorbike frame, not structural, but potentialy likely to become structural if I don't take action.

My problem is to find the right product. Stuff like the one above might be good, I just bought a similar product from halfords, that "transforms" the rust within 3 hours into something stronger (??), but I've been told by a friend in france that "rust never dies, it only sleeps!" and that it needs to be killed! I totally trust his judgment (very experienced and knowledgeable rider), but the translation fails me as I cannot find on the intaweb the stuff he recommends me to use...
Basically, it does not transform the rust into something else, it makes it disappear permanently
Litteraly translated it would be "PHOSPHATING ANTI RUST TREATMENT". It is pretty hard core chemical, but apparently it is extremely efficient, and has to be used with care as it is dangerous for the skin, etc... as you can imagine...

Here is the french product I found, I need the british equivalent, in a shop... I'm sure it's there around the corner but I don't know what to ask for...

http://www.anti-rouille.fr/

Because I don't know the correct translation of this in english, google is not of much help and I don't really want to order in France, ideally if I could find a shop in London, that would be great...

Thanks in advance for your help!

L

From playing with cars the only way to make to rust go away is to chop it out. But have used like jenolite which has been good. But you need to stop the chemical reaction that converts iron to iron oxide and that would be to take away the oxygen, so a decent hi zinc content paint. The one that I use is galvanizing spray as it contains a very high zinc content.

But we can talk about this sort of thing if you want.

i'm halfway through relining the tank of my (pretty old) motorbike as it was really rusty and i Think probably blocking the carbs. I got some rust eater stuff, then some kind of 'rust convertor' and an epoxy lining soln. from these guys:

http://www.caswelleurope.co.uk/index-front.html (the site is really terrible)

They seem to do plenty of rust stuff and the bloke i spoke to was very helpful in a quintisentially posh and english way. No idea if it's worked yet, will let you know in a few days...

B.

i'm halfway through relining the tank of my (pretty old) motorbike as it was really rusty and i Think probably blocking the carbs. I got some rust eater stuff, then some kind of 'rust convertor' and an epoxy lining soln. from these guys:

http://www.caswelleurope.co.uk/index-front.html (the site is really terrible)

They seem to do plenty of rust stuff and the bloke i spoke to was very helpful in a quintisentially posh and english way. No idea if it's worked yet, will let you know in a few days...

B.

Thats quite interesting as I usually use a por51 tank liner kit from frost.

Would like some feed back on ease of use etc.

Ok I'll try here before starting a new thread and get flamed...

I have rust problem on my motorbike frame, not structural, but potentialy likely to become structural if I don't take action.

My problem is to find the right product. Stuff like the one above might be good, I just bought a similar product from halfords, that "transforms" the rust within 3 hours into something stronger (??), but I've been told by a friend in france that "rust never dies, it only sleeps!" and that it needs to be killed! I totally trust his judgment (very experienced and knowledgeable rider), but the translation fails me as I cannot find on the intaweb the stuff he recommends me to use...
Basically, it does not transform the rust into something else, it makes it disappear permanently
Litteraly translated it would be "PHOSPHATING ANTI RUST TREATMENT". It is pretty hard core chemical, but apparently it is extremely efficient, and has to be used with care as it is dangerous for the skin, etc... as you can imagine...

Here is the french product I found, I need the british equivalent, in a shop... I'm sure it's there around the corner but I don't know what to ask for...

http://www.anti-rouille.fr/

Because I don't know the correct translation of this in english, google is not of much help and I don't really want to order in France, ideally if I could find a shop in London, that would be great...

Thanks in advance for your help!

L

I think most things will be fine as long as they are covered properly afterwards
i used some stuff called Fertan when repainting a 50ft and a 40ft narrowboat. 2 years on and not a single sign of rust on either, although it did get around 5 coats of paint to seal it.
Smaller touch ups were done using simple Hammerite Kurust.

the caswelleurop thing looks like a good option, I will call them

Thanks

Loic