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  • Slighty off topic but all the practicalities outlined above make me want to get a tourer. I had wanted a slick 80s/90s steel road bike but the awsome ones have no eyelets for racks and guards. Ideally I want a bike that does just about everything:

    • Long fast roady rides, rip of the racks, change the tyres.
    • Holiday to europe, touring tyres and racks on
    • Pissing it down and need to get somewhere, take the tourer and its awesome mudguards.

    I've been checking out stuff like road/cyclocross orientated frames with eyelets and clearances for bigger tyres:

    • Kona Jake
    • Dawes Galaxy
    • Kinesis racelight/crosslight

    You forgot the obvious Surly, Cross Check or Long Haul Trucker.
    I've got a CrossCheck as my do all bike and its great, spends most of its time as my mud guard commuter but have got a set of 700x45cc that fit on for some drop bar off road fun when the weather is fine.

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