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• #2
So the warning is that you didn't tighten your lock ring tight enough and has nothing to do with the miche lock ring?
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• #3
?
As long as you check the lockring every week or so, you shouldn't have a problem...
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• #4
the wear was between the ring and sprocket caused by rotational force. the lockring I tightened with a drift and hammer after using a c spanner. You may be right Mr Tiles but I suspect the sprockets too soft
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• #5
That's been a problem with them for years. Most people reckon the little bit of play that develops isn't really an issue for day-to-day riding, but I went for traditional sprockets from the off, as I generate the kind of power that makes butterflies' wings flap on the other side of the globe.
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• #6
^^^^^
BMMF riding over to his gran's for tea.I've used them for a while and found I shark-tooth the cogs slower than alloy ones around the same price. I've never had any play develop.
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• #7
Two words: Dura Ace.
The way, the truth and the light.....
Seriously, tho' that sounds bad, I think the White industries cogs are splined as well, but a better spline system- more meat, kinda thing.
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• #8
it makes no sense anyway. saving 30 seconds and foresaking simplicity for some shitty thing that people can't use anyway?
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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• #9
they are shit. pure and simple. Regardless of how well you fit and tighten them. I've seen too many of these fail when people have used them on the track and it's fucking dangerous. anything that relies solely on one lockring is a massive FAIL
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• #10
All cogs rely solely on one lockring to stay on?
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• #11
I read somewhere else that the Miche lockrings are dodgy too. I purchased one off wiggle cos' of the cheap price but was disappointed when it arrived. Even though it did eventually tighten on to the sprocket, it was a very loose fitting, which IMO would prove problematic in the future.
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• #12
Oh bugger it.
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• #13
^^^^^
BMMF riding over to his gran's for tea.I've used them for a while and found I shark-tooth the cogs slower than alloy ones around the same price. I've never had any play develop.
You know what they say...loose lips sink ships, and loose rings erm.......yeah.....
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• #14
Miche do seem to awkward with the lockring senario, cant you use two?
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• #15
All cogs rely solely on one lockring to stay on?
no they don't. they stay on because they are threaded on, the lockring purely stops it unthreading against very hard back pressure.
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• #16
I read somewhere else that the Miche lockrings are dodgy too. I purchased one off wiggle cos' of the cheap price but was disappointed when it arrived. Even though it did eventually tighten on to the sprocket, it was a very loose fitting, which IMO would prove problematic in the future.
Miche lockrings have a different threading specific to Miche Hubs (Italian threading I think, possibly different angle of the thread surface), which is probably why they don't mate up to a regular track hub well. I found this out because my old lockring would not fit when I bought a Miche hub.
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• #17
they stay on because they are threaded on, the lockring purely stops it unthreading against very hard back pressure.
^this is the same as the Miche.
You can't ride a Miche cog around without a lockring sure. But the exact same principal of reverse threads applies.
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• #18
^this is the same as the Miche.
You can't ride a Miche cog around without a lockring
well it's not the fucking same then is it.
now shut up.
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• #19
haha. You'd be great in The Hague.
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• #20
yes, I'd ride round it on my bike without a lockring and still be able to do a skid on the carpet.
I assume they have carpet in the Hague...
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• #21
around William Hague? carpet?
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• #22
well it's not the fucking same then is it.
now shut up.
now, is this bickering or just a forceful expression of a reasonably held viewpoint?
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• #23
hang on, if bickering is banned, then why is wigan still here?
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• #24
hang on, if bickering is banned, then why is wigan still here?
cos he has photos of velocio doing strange things with a length of inner tube, some tub glue and a small orange.
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• #25
hang on, if bickering is banned, then why is wigan still here?
no need to be formal, you can call me will.
I'm still here because I'm the only one who truly understands your pain
:)
about six months ago, I fitted a 17 tooth miche sprocket which i purchased from wiggle. this has a two part ring and sprocket. the ring screws onto the hub and the splined rim locates in the sprocket. The other day I noticed the lock ring was loose.
This was caused by the sprocket moving about because the ring is now a dick fit.
the fucking thing could have killed me. I've now got a lovely new one piece one from HUBJUB now.